Part #2 of Vince Green! I am so excited. The bombs! What! Vince goes deep on goals. Humans are goal seeking machines. Ambiguous goals. Ambiguous results. The power, effectiveness, and speed of entrepreneurs. To not only create, but too give back. And you want to have success as an entrepreneur… Know Thyself. And there is a subtle metaphysical bent to it. You just have to listen.
Part #2 of Vince Green! I am so excited. The bombs! What! Vince goes deep on goals. Humans are goal seeking machines. Ambiguous goals. Ambiguous results. The power, effectiveness, and speed of entrepreneurs. To not only create, but too give back. And you want to have success as an entrepreneur… Know Thyself. And there is a subtle metaphysical bent to it. You just have to listen.
Vince Green is my genius coach (at time of this publishing now Director of Coaching) at the 2CCX. Click Funnels and Russell Brunson’s high end coaching group. His team has won a 2CCX award at ClickFunnels for their expertise running a webinar program. Vince has incredible knowledge and has coached and influenced many entrepreneurs with his experience and expertise. If you are new to your entrepreneurial journey or are a seasoned pro and could use some reminders…_________________
And then and then when you get the feedback, you can adjust the key is to start getting it out there, right? Get your offer out there, you're not going to know how to create the perfect offer if you don't start with some sort of offer.
More on the importance of goals. Fuzzy goals don’t get hit. Establish what my goal is.
My belief comes from this one thing that as humans, we are goal seeking machines. And so when we set goals, we will figure out how to get to them.
And so there are some of us on this earth that are going to better put on the earth to identify and create our own goals. And not chase not work as a as a member of Team for somebody else's.
humans are goal seeking machines, when we have goals and wake up in the morning, do we know what they are? We, we go and get them.
More on the sweet spot… How can you get in front of more people and add higher value items? If we hire more people we just move that sweet spot out…
You have a sweet spot for those of you who are thinking, how could I do that? How can I do this? How could I hate my job? And do this? Or how could I stay in university? And do this? Or how could I stay? You know, what, wherever you are? Yes. And do this, there is a definitely sweet spot, your job is to go and find it.
Vince works with lots of effective entrepreneurs in his world. He is clearly effected by it in a deep meaningful way. Coming out of the corporate in world in 2013 it has given him a new perspective on life, meaning, purpose, etc.
How much do we need that “opportunity to be brilliant…? 10 minutes a week?”
I just think that, you know, for all the years, there is a speed that happens within the entrepreneur. And so that's like, I'm just, I'm grateful for all of them, that do what they do, because most of them, if not all of them... Ah Mischa... Went through, you know, some some very tough times, or are going to go through some tough times.
You want to have success as an entrepreneur. Know thyself. Where are you in your journey from rugged individual to valued team member?
Right. Yeah. Because look, it's we talked a lot today in most of us literally know that the only way that that we get results is because we've taken actions.
And then he takes “know thyself” to the metaphysical.
A little riff on sunk costs. Aka “hanging on to the past”. It’s so good.
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Mischa Zvegintzov
I want to address one point you said about. And thank you for that, that you're welcome, right?
Mischa Zvegintzov
The point of put the offer out there, put your message out there, start putting it out there. And then and then when you get the feedback, you can adjust the key is to start getting it out there, right? Get your offer out there, you're not going to know how to create the perfect offer if you don't start with some sort of offer. Right? If that's if I'm if I'm saying that properly, or it's like...
Mischa Zvegintzov
I think so many of us, we want to have the perfect message for somebody out of the gate, right? Fact is, perhaps you don't have an audience to offend, so don't worry about it. But start with a message and then refine as you go.
Vince Green
So I'll just go ahead. Yeah, so perfectionism planner planning all there's no shortage of things that we could that we can blame. But I'm not going to go there. And I know it's a worthy discussion.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah.
Vince Green
But here's the only thing, what we what we need to do is have clear goals. That goal could be for, you know, as we look forward 15 days from now, what do you want to have done? Right?
Vince Green
So part of the whole SMART goal acronym is that it's attainable. It must be attainable. So whether it's 15 days to put out your first offer, or to create your first podcast or to create, like... what's what's attainable, right?
Vince Green
And that's going back to that, like, two comma Club Award. Amazing, great thing. That's that very worthy thing. But it's like, what's... Where's like, where's my sweet spot? My goal is to find my sweet spot. And then so how if I'm finding my sweet spot, like, how much how much can I do on my own? Or how much can I do with one person? How much can I do with this? Right? Yes, yes.
Vince Green
And then break down that goal, like, well, that's a fuzzy goal. It's fuzzy, fuzzy goals don't get hit. Right. So what's the very first thing it's like? Okay, I'm one individual, if I'm time bound, and I know my rate, I know, like, again, I can, how do I how do I fill my calendar? Or how do I fill my production? If I have machinery? How do I fill the machinery? Or? Um, how do I feel like course, right?
Vince Green
Some things, some things it said are open ended, like the whole world could buy my course. And the new all the newborns could keep continue to buy my course. But that's not realistic. I It's okay. It seems silly. But but the thing is, like, like, you have an opportunity, because you understand your audience, and you're going to be out there. It's like, the, the goal is to pick a number, like, what is it going to take for me to sell 10 of these?
Vince Green
Again. It's a chicken or egg. I'll take them both. And I'm going to establish what my goal is. Right? I don't know how...
Vince Green
I hope the chicken can lay an egg a day. I do. But what's it gonna take? I got to feed that water and protect it. Right. Make sure it's warm. Make sure the conditions are right.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah.
Vince Green
Right.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah.
Vince Green
Okay. And so it's the same thing here. It's like, we've got your audience and they're starting to pay attention to you. And like, what, like, it's not about what they expect. It's like who you are, what do you do for them? Again, when you understand yourself, there's a lot of self awareness to this. But the thing is, when you are able to produce a product or a service and get a result for somebody, and it's in line with what they're what they're looking for, right? There's a demand for it. Right? We're not trying to create solutions for problems that don't exist. When I was talking about YouTube. It's like, oh, there's problems that do exist. I just wasn't aware of it. Yes, somebody else had the problem. I just didn't have an understanding that this was even an issue. It's like, that's amazing. Okay.
Vince Green
How many industries I've seen in the past six years working with, with the folks here Click Funnels is like, it's unbelievable. Yeah. How many awards or, and people who have never had either haven't hit it or never applied for it, or just think they don't care? The things that we help people with is amazing. Yeah. Right. So I don't know, is that does that answer the question? But coming back to it?
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah, I think absolutely, it spoke to it. And I appreciate that. And I think that's a great point, a lot of people are, are having success, or getting their message out or solving these problems. They've found their audience, their, their, their, you know, their, their what's the word? I don't know, they're doing good, whatever that means to them. And they don't even worry about the award. They're there. That's not a metric that they're even really concerned about. Right. Like that's, I appreciate that, too. So thank you for sharing that as well.
Vince Green
So my belief, my belief comes from this one thing that as humans, we are goal seeking machines. And so when we set goals, we will figure out how to get to them.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah.
Vince Green
I get that. There are some definitely some things that we have to overcome.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah.
Vince Green
Right. Ryan Holliday wrote the book, the obstacle is the way for reason. As humans are goal seeking machines.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yes.
Vince Green
And so there are some of us on this earth that are going to better put on the earth to identify and create our own goals.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yes.
Vince Green
And not chase not work as a as a member of Team for somebody else's. I love that, that there are fewer of us that set our own goals than want to be like part of the machine because like that's how we all move together. We need both.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah.
Vince Green
Both have value and both have. But again, there there are some of us that want to set these goals. Yeah. And we don't all achieve them, which is interesting.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah.
Vince Green
But we know how to go back and kind of redo those. And sometimes sometimes we get beat out. Like sometimes the markets already moved or we're going into markets that are worthy solutions is already well in present and very economically distributed.
Mischa Zvegintzov
That's a great way to frame that.
Vince Green
But if it's not, and then there's opportunity, and sometimes we need to take one or two or three runs at it.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah.
Vince Green
Right.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah.
Vince Green
So, yeah. But it's, again...
Vince Green
I'll go back to it. Humans are goal seeking machines. And everything that we bring back to this is about having others believe in the goal and mission and vision. And having them as as it says, In the name of the podcast, having to Rush The Table to be a member of that movement or that machine or... and just bring it back. Right.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah.
Vince Green
So and so that they can set their own goals.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah.
Vince Green
Right. Well,
Vince Green
They're smart goals or their own goals. However it is. But again, humans are goal seeking machines, when we have goals and wake up in the morning, do we know what they are? We, we go and get them.
Mischa Zvegintzov
yeah,
Mischa Zvegintzov
we go and get a, i, yes, thank you. And I do I, I'd like your concept of the sweet spot. And if, if I would, the way I heard, what that sweet spot is, is, alright, find the thing, that's that realistic, sweet spot, that's gonna pull you forward as quick as possible to that next step, or that next to get to that sweet spot. So then you can keep moving it and moving it, right like some, like, for somebody the 2CCX award, as a goal, or as a sweet spot might be too illusory, or too, too... I'm trying to think of the word, but...
Vince Green
So I'll just, I'll just jump in and say that it the at the sweet spot, someone, if someone's trying to selling just exclusively on their own, their sweet spot might be just this side of it. And that's okay. Then the goal then becomes like, Oh, I got this far with it, I need to add more who's in the team? And that's going to get me past that, then I'm going to cash in my ticket for that award. And I want to start working on the next award. Right?
Vince Green
So the sweet spot is... I'll expand on it just a little bit this way. It's like, your sweet spot, is that thing that you could do on your own? Or, you know, without? How can I say this? That like was just a few new tools, a few new things that few sets a little more traffic, a little more conversions. And you're going, you're going to get right there. So it's that thing that that avoids you. When you're when the overthinking comes in. When the overwhelm comes in and says, Well, man, I need to learn this and this and this, and this, I need to bring this person and this person, this person. And it's like, it's not that it won't work. It's just that now you've changed the sweet spot. So every time if you could literally do it yourself, the sweet spot is kind of right in front of you. You could Max yourself out right in front of you.
Vince Green
It is like if you have everything you know how to... you have traffic, you have an audience, you're getting attention, and you're able to just put a page up in Clickfunnels. And you're gonna get it done in a few days. And bang, you've got some sales, that's your sweet spot, and you ain't you, you, it's right in front of you. And it's very close when you're on your own. But the more you bring in, the more you're like, I need this, this thing, this thing and this thing and this thing. And if it's not helpful, by the way, if you can't just show up to and hire someone to either do it and be done. Or get get get into a program where you're just getting the help every day, right. But... when you have to start to learn all these things, and you're unable to implement this, so you're taking in all this stuff, or you're adding all this team. All you're doing is saying, Okay, so I'm now this person who has to learn these four pieces of expertise, add these two people on. So I was a person whose sweet spot was and you'll figure it out if you ever did it that far out. But now oh my gosh, with all these four things. It's not like it's closer.
Vince Green
When you add on more things that you have to learn and do. And you have more people here. It's like, how can you get in front of the right people? And add kind of higher value items. Right, which you and I, you know, we talked about, it's the am I going to am I better off to sell $1,000 course, or am I better off to write the book and try to sell 1000 books.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yep.
Vince Green
You're better off to work with those 100 people, whatever the math is, you get that same kind of revenue that you might sell 1000 books for. Right? So now you're over here like okay, that makes sense, right? But imagine if you had to do to learn these two or three things, get some proficiency in them. Just even getting to the first like I said earlier was the first 20% the 20 of the 80/20 and then you have to add other people on and that was like, every minute you spend it takes a little bit more time. So all we've done is we moved that sweet spot out. and you can do that, it's just that it's a choice. Am I gonna, a lot of us can come in and do this, some can't I appreciate that I honestly do. I appreciate that. And a lot of people already have these systems in place. And so but those systems exist to support another operation. And we could take 10% of that system and bring it over here and not really disrupt it that would support that individual going forward. Sure, those kinds of things work. There's always that kind of conversation. But the reality is that sweet spot, wherever it is, whether it's this side of the million, whatever, that side of a million. You have a sweet spot for those of you who are thinking, how could I do that? How can I do this? How could I hate my job? And do this? Or how could I stay in university? And do this? Or how could I stay? You know, what, wherever you are?
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yes.
Vince Green
And do this, there is a definitely sweet spot, your job is to go and find it.
Mischa Zvegintzov
I love that. Thank you for that explanation. Yes.
Vince Green
You're welcome.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Well done. Nice bow on that. Yes.
Vince Green
Cool
Mischa Zvegintzov
Um, just a few more minutes here, I got...
Mischa Zvegintzov
You get to interact with a ton of people that are really successful with these frameworks. And tell me about that, like, How fun is that to, to be helped bring, you've been a guide to help get people up, you know, have a ton of success. And then you get to interact with sort of this great breadth of, of of entrepreneur. like... Tell me about that is that just how fun is that?
Vince Green
It's, it's pretty spectacular, actually. So I've had the occasion, I've had the opportunity, and really, I'll just say, kind of been blessed to, to go to the annual Funnel Hacking live events that we've had. And, and as I count back, there's, I've been to five out of the five out of the seven. Yeah, that we've had. And that's here, we, you know... Russell opens a party out for, you know, 5000 people to kind of come in.
Vince Green
And it was different this year, in COVID. We had some in person and some online, but it's it's pretty amazing. And again, I'm just, I'm just really blown away, like, I'm blown away. Because I'm a guy who came out of, up until 2013, at a corporate.
Vince Green
And in corporate you're very myopic, and your goals are given to you. And look, we, this world exists with both corporate and the entrepreneurs, and I know the wars, Iran, and people like that to create the thing. But the reality is that it's, you know, successful entrepreneurs can then create these operations that become corporate. So...
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yes. It's ironic, anyway, yes.
Vince Green
But my eyes are opened to how much of this world is supported by the entrepreneur. And how things are created by the entrepreneur and a lot of changes made by the entrepreneur. And then these other operations come in, and they buy it for lack of a better word, right? Or they, they build it on their own, or whatever it is, or they coexist, they're all in business. Or the entrepreneur builds an organization that competes with these things. But I'm amazed that really, you know, it's none of this is easy. And it can be disruptive, but it can also be highly rewarding, it really depends on your mindset on how you're going to look at this.
Vince Green
And I had a very kind of black and white approach coming out of corporate and thinking that business is done a certain way.
Vince Green
And what these amazing entrepreneurs have taught me is that they are able to find their own character, their own, carry their own beliefs, carry the beliefs of their families, their communities, their religions, their countries, their politics, whatever, carry it forward. And, and, and still have this life that is like...
Vince Green
so I say that because I have had the opportunity to have lunch and dinner and, um, you know, and I'm curious. And so the interesting thing is that in some respects...
Vince Green
And everybody who's listening to this podcast, and you and me and everybody that I work with, we have this... we have this opportunity to be brilliant, apon... above what is truly believable. But we only need to do that for a little bit, right? Only need to have that spark, like... I don't know, 10 minutes a week or whatever it is. Like I'm sure there's no real design to it.
Vince Green
But it's it's true that where these entrepreneurs place themselves the opportunities that they put themselves in. Whether it's just because... and sometimes they don't, sometimes we don't know, like that this is going to happen. They show up for a reason. And then other things happen. And they're able to, I talked about it earlier, but like, kinda like how do you make the frameworks your own.
Vince Green
They make this, this experience their own. They might have gone to figure out... or to meet somebody at funnel hacking live... or to figure something out. Or to support their friend. And then something else happens in within that experience. And it's when you are open when you are when your mind, your body, your soul, everything is open for those things to happen. And they happen and they're, you're open, you recognize them. I'm sure they happen anyway. But we just don't recognize them.
Vince Green
And so and so, like, you know, we, you and I, and when I work with people, and even more for myself, like, we talk a lot about our origin stories, and what are those epiphanies that happen? And I gotta tell you, like, I know, I can I can be on a plane, I can be talking to somebody if I do, I don't necessarily, that's not necessarily me. But if it happens...
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah,
Vince Green
There's people in corporate, there's people in philanthropic and in charitable roles that have do the same thing happens.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yes.
Vince Green
I just think that, you know, for all the years, there is a speed that happens within the entrepreneur. And so that's like, I'm just, I'm grateful for all of them, that do what they do, because most of them, if not all of them... Ah Mischa... Went through, you know, some some very tough times, or are going to go through some tough times.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah.
Vince Green
And, you know, for whatever reason, they don't throw the towel in, and business doesn't just, it doesn't just, you know, send you a care package with a big fish check. You know, it doesn't, it doesn't happen.
Vince Green
And so, but but it's also not, you know, all, you know, dragons fighting dragons, it's, you know, like, there's a lot of in between there. And so the supportive community of the entrepreneurs, is amazing. When I compare and contrast that to the corporate world. And I'm not saying the corporate world didn't do that, there was a lot of a lot of sticking together and helping each other.
Vince Green
But here, it's very unique. I never, I didn't know it existed. And so it's a, on a, on a macro scale. It's it's very heartening. I see it every day, that smaller scale, but sometimes we forget that on a macro scale.
Vince Green
And meeting some of these people, the stories that I hear, and, and I'll tell you, the things that are asked of me and asked her of others, yep, I think, and I put it this way, because they're able to, they're able to know how to ask, and if not for necessarily even for help, you know, sometimes it's just for a door to be opened or an introduction to be met. Or, you know, or feedback, right. Or feedback on the feedback that they're getting, right! And, and that's that's the differentiator, they trust themselves. And so it's, it's just, it's brilliant to be able to have conversations with with people like that.
Vince Green
So I, honestly man, I've thoroughly thoroughly enjoyed being given that opportunity to support people like that, and then it just immediately goes beyond that, you know, just people, man. Just people.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Beautiful.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Thank you. I, I I liked the little nugget in there of the willing to ask. or the willing to do or the willing to... that whatever that hard little thing is.
Vince Green
Yeah.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah. That was that was. That was awesome.
Vince Green
And that asked... That asked goes the other way, too, right. They're asked of and, and they show up? They ask and they are asked of. So if... I'm not if it wasn't clear on that. Probably wasn't. But they're asked and asked of. And at that that level. Yeah, they are givers in all respects. Yeah. Right to read Dr. Adam grants book, "Give and take". And then I won't spoil the ending, but like, these people are givers, and they're highly successful.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yeah, that's awesome. That's, that's awesome. Um, for the audience that we were speaking to today. You know, where the Two Comma Club Award might be the first sort of prize, shall we say? What would be the one tip that you would say, "Hey, keep this top of mind."
Mischa Zvegintzov
First thing that comes to your head, just... I there's so many, but go ahead. Sorry,
Vince Green
Yeah. Okay, so. I'm just gonna say it is, it is two words, and it ain't sexy. And a lot of this stuff I didn't I didn't know, even you know, eight years ago, but this, this is, these two words are "Know thyself". And, and that is that is very important. And, and to extend that, I will say that there is self reflection and those kinds of things. But I gotta tell you, everybody should have a coach, whether it's on mindset, or other things, like when you know.... that see.
Vince Green
The first thing that happens when you know thyself, when you you know, you can say, yeah, I get I know what I'm good at, or what I'm, you know, what I'm not good at, I know what I need to do. And that's all really good. But you have to... the only way things happen here is that you are going to take action.
Vince Green
And so and you're representing and, again, you don't have to be the face of your brand. You know, we cover a lot of that all day long with people like, but really like... know thyself, it's not just about presenting strengths. But there were periods that you go through post high school, let's just say I'll just say like in North America, just post high school. Like whether you're 17 or 18, whatever. There's those two stages. Right? That, and again, Dan, Dan Sullivan, Strategic Coach identifies there's lots of other people who kind of do these kinds of things. But you know, when you move from rugged individual, and then you know, where you've got the world on your shoulders, and you're carrying it, and then you transition into this valued team member kind of approach. Whether you're leading the team or the team, whatever it is, right? Yeah, that so you have to know like, where are you in your? Where are you in your world? Where are you in this world? And just, it's and like, "know, thysel.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Know thyself? Yes. Yeah, it's good. And we could, we could do about five episodes on that. But we'll just we'll just, we'll just leave that there for now. And then one last question. So that's, that's sort of, hey, keep this top of mind "Know thysel"f, you know, find that coach find like, like, be aware. Trust, I mean, all the things that can go around that. Awesome. How about how about on the other side of that, like, what, what's the the one thing you're like, you know what? Watch out for this. Like, if you can avoid this, if you can avoid this, if you can avoid "this".
Vince Green
Okay, let's go right back to it. Know thyself. Sorry, Man.
Mischa Zvegintzov
It's fine.
Vince Green
Right. Yeah. Because look, it's we talked a lot today in most of us literally know that the only way that that we get results is because we've taken actions.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Okay. Oh, yes.
Vince Green
So there's a reason that you that you got to this action. And I'm not talking about the logical or the emotional, there was there was something going on. Right? You you felt a certain way you felt that you needed something. And just be really clear about where those thoughts are formulating. They don't always have to be wrong. They don't always have to be someone else's. There is like, there's something in there.
Vince Green
Like, like, like, "know thyself" is about like, what, again, I talked about, like how like that risk of you doing something that moves the sweet spot to a place that you're not even going in the first place. Right. So imagine signing up to be trained as I don't, let's just use my example from really like as a personal coach, right, or a professional coach, or whatever it's going to be. And, and then suddenly, you know, you're bringing in these other things because it was true and present, you gave it attention, and it's one of those things that likely will need to be there. But it doesn't need to be there today. And what happens is that it takes up those valuable things of time, energy and money and it can't pay off.
Vince Green
And then it becomes and if you look back at it, if you did that in 2019 It's not serving it's still not about to serve you because if it was able to serve you and get a return like you would be implementing it so it really is like when you know thyself and you know what your goals are and you know what it is that that others are doing. Right. There's no shortage of conversation about, you know how to model what is working, but you got to have some real hard conversations about what it is.
Vince Green
Like, first of all, we know we can't do it alone. Okay, because and why should we, we shouldn't have to figure it out all over again. Yep. Imagine musicians having to invent a guitar and then play it and figure out that needs to be like, it doesn't happen. Okay, so we're all standing on the shoulders of giants.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yes. Thank you.
Vince Green
You know, again, we, we want to give ourselves the best opportunity, we do need to take action. And I know that if you're familiar with Seth Godin, when, when it comes to risk, what what Seth has taught me over the years, is that the biggest risk is sunk costs. Okay, and if you know thyself, you know what this is all about, like the one thing I don't I know, Mischa you and I probably never talked about this.
Vince Green
And it's, it's, you know, it's but it's true, like, when I talk to people meet successful people are those that are still working to get to what they would consider successful. By the way, and it's not about what I consider successful, it's when you and whoever I'm talking to consider successful.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yes.
Vince Green
But that is a real challenge for people. Because they they get, they just they get out of sorts with themselves because of the sunk costs. Because they again, you know, that whole thing about like, like, where whatever we focus on is going to come true. So imagine if if what you're doing is you're always trying to figure out how you could utilize that three grand or 30 grand that you put into this course from from two years ago, and it's still burning a hole. And it's like, and it doesn't matter, because it doesn't, your marketplace doesn't care what what you put 30 or three grand into, you know, two years ago, what they care about is the fantastic work that you're doing today. Yes, and so and they want you to be there so that you can continue to do this, they truly do.
Vince Green
So, that's, that's the thing, it comes back to know thyself. And like when we focus again, we get what we focus on. And if you're focusing on the sunk cost, you have to be you have to figure out how you can move yourself off that. Get a coach, get a mindset coach, whatever it is, how are you going to do that? Call it a day, go burn the books, whatever it is. I know we shouldn't say that. Burn the books but. But again, you know what I mean? Like, like, just get it off your harddrive give it to your to your cousin to your auntie, wherever it's gonna go. Right? Call it a day on it, sell it for $1 on eBay. I don't even know if you could legally do that, you know, might be against the terms of service. So don't take my advice on that.
Vince Green
But the fact is get rid of it, like somehow put it on a hot put her on a thumb drive and burn. Right? I the thumb drive? I don't know. But, but that's the thing that keeps us that keeps us anchored in the past. And again, I go back to, you know, Dr. Benjamin Hardy, and his whole talk his whole work about like the future self. That's what keeps us going forward. Right? And it's okay, like there is you and I are talking about entrepreneurs today. But there is a lot of ways that people envision their future self and are going to get there. One of the ways that the people that I work with, that the people around me work with is through entrepreneurship. There are many ways to achieve what people's future selves. For us over here and looks like for you as well. That that path is through entrepreneurship. Yeah. And it's 2021 and I'm sure it wasn't as exciting in 1921 as it isn't 2021 Right, but, but I didn't live then and I live today and I'm jacked up about this.
Mischa Zvegintzov
Me too, man. That's so cool. Beautiful. Beautiful Vince thank you so much. Hey, that was amazing. Thank you for coming on on to the to the Table Rush Master Class and, and yeah, share sharing your your amazing knowledge and experience and, and everything and
Vince Green
you're welcome Mischa. And again, you know, you're doing the work that's going to carry this carry all of the messages from all of the speakers and from... and, you know, what we do today affects a lot of other people. And, you know, our job is to get the word out, and that's, you know, that's what we're doing. So I applaud you, man. Yes. This is this is good work, and I look forward to listening to a lot of the other podcasts
Mischa Zvegintzov
Yep fantastic thank you I'm gonna hit stop and we will say goodbye offline