I interview Hypnotherapist and NLP specialist Sheryne Wilson. We start with how she got there. And then dive into the strategy of NLP and hypnotherapy for a better life. She gives actionable NLP tools that you can use starting right now! And then she gives real life stories of who she has helped. We totally pivot and finish up with gender and gender roles and how we can fix those to heal the planet! And we have a ton of fun doing it!
I interview Hypnotherapist and NLP specialist Sheryne Wilson. We start with how she got there. And then dive into the strategy of NLP and hypnotherapy for a better life. She gives actionable NLP tools that you can use starting right now! And then she gives real life stories of who she has helped. We totally pivot and finish up with gender and gender roles and how we can fix those to heal the planet! And we have a ton of fun doing it!
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Transcript: Mischa Z: 00:00:00 Sheryne Wilson, welcome to The Bitch Slap ...The Accelerated Path To Peace Podcast. And, um, we have, uh, you were on my, um, summit, the Tools For A Good Life Summit. So anybody listening, you can hit pause and go run to www.toolsforagoodlifesummit.com and check out Sheryne's amazing, amazing, um, interview. Right. And you, it was very specific. We were talking about, um, like what would, what steps would you offer somebody to help help them get back on track or whatever? And you just were dropping bomb after bomb, after bomb. So amazing. Um, you are amazing. Um, what, I was thinking beforehand, like I'm literally getting the shivers, thinking about like the, the, the moments of like, yeah, yeah, yeah. What was the best thing you said? And I think it was one of the best things you said was, um, and it might've been on the, uh, VIP bonus section, but before we get to that, do you hold, hold place? I was just gonna say, people might be wondering, well, what does she do? Who is she? And, um, you, uh, you are a, um, how am I going to say this? Well, one of the favorite things about you is that you had like, uh, how do you say it's like some, auto-immune some physical issues. Yeah. Right. And you, you were able to like go out and learn all this stuff and like literally heal your body and your mind. Yeah,
Sheryne Wilson: 00:02:01 Yeah, yeah,
Mischa Z: 00:02:04 Yeah. That's yeah. Right. Like that's amazing. That's yeah. And then you do NLP, which is Neuro Linguistic Programming. Um, so you, you, you help people with that tool with, uh, hypnotherapy neuro linguistic programming, NLP, maybe speak to that for a minute. Like, what's the, gimme the, like, this is why you want NLP real quick.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:02:33 Um, okay. You want NLP because a lot of our blocks and most of us know this, our blocks are on an obnoxious or a subconscious level. And so, so many times I know something's blocked blocking me. I don't know what it is. I'm stuck. I don't know what it is. And NLP uses language to bypass the conscious mind, which is always trying to the logical mind, always trying to figure out what the problem is. And it goes directly to the unconscious, which is where everything runs. That is, that is the board of, of how we do life. Right? And so NLP is using language, in my opinion, to bypass the unconscious, the conscious mind to get to the unconscious so that we can actually start dealing with the problem, um, so that we can start taking yourself out of the problem. Um, I love it because one of my sayings is focusing on the problem as part of the problem.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:03:25 And this basically takes you outside. The problem gives you a different perspective. It gives you a different viewpoint so that you can start actually creating solutions in your life. And so, I mean, that's the one, there's a, that's my definition. There's a million definitions. I mean, by standard, um, it is, NLP is a standard of excellence and it is really about how to use the mind to get to a place of excellence, um, and, and how you're able to associate and dissociate into situations so that you can figure out what you're doing. Uh, another way of saying NLP too, is NLP is about internal representation. What, you know, the word happy means to me could mean totally different. Something totally different to you. So it's about understanding how you view the world and why you view the world that way and how you can change you. Sorry, how you can view the world in a different way and how you Mischa you something different and how we can work together to understand behavior and understand how you work in. I work I'm, I can rabbit hole down this path for a long time, so I'll just stop there. But, um, yeah, it's dealing with the unconscious and the subconscious mind using language.
Mischa Z: 00:04:37 Cool. I, um, I love it. Thank you for that. And we're going to come right back to that, but, um,
Mischa Z: 00:04:47 I was thinking of words to say, when I was going to introduce you before, right. As we're coming onto this, and of course I didn't write them down. And so now I'm trying to remember what they were. Right. But they were like, uh, like, um, like open, uh, I don't know. I don't know if raw the right word, but vulnerable, perhaps like there's no. Um, one thing I love about you is that there's that, that wall that can be there between people, at least between you and I is like, just melts away really quick. Right. So we get to be vulnerable and authentic and all those cool are all those words that we hear thrown about. Right. Um, I'd also say I pay for this coaching group that I'm in and it's kind of pricey. And I have this coach who's amazing. And, um, his name's Vince, Hey, Vince, if you're listening, love you. I know you love Vince. I would. I know that you have an opportunity and Vince has been incredibly powerful in my life. And then Vince, oftentimes we'll get some coaching or maybe I shouldn't say this on the air, but, um, I know that he, you and him have a relationship and you've been powerful in his life. So I'm just trying to let the audience know that you have a powerful, useful message by a couple of however, I'm using a couple of degrees of separation to help help with that. Yeah.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:06:15 Yes. I work with all walks of life and Vince has been one of those people that I've had the pleasure of working with and he's helped me and I've been able to help him. So, yeah.
Mischa Z: 00:06:26 Yeah. So go ahead. No, no, that's it. Yeah. So that's our proof of, that's our, that's our social proof. Like you're legit. You, you bring real solutions to the world, I guess is what I'm trying to say. Um, I want to go back to, so you said NLP, and then you said language it's about language, but then you, I don't want to say hedged a little bit, but you're like, well, maybe most people talk about NLP. They don't talk about language or they don't talk about it in language the same way you do. Or maybe tell me what you, what, what what's, what's going on there?
Sheryne Wilson: 00:07:03 Well, in NLP, everybody has an internal representation of the world and we filter information as it comes in and everybody deletes and distorts what comes into their mind, you know, because we can only take in so much information, we take in 123 bits, um, versus we're receiving 40 billion bits per, per minute at, uh, like just flat per second, I think at a time. And so our unconscious mind and our conscious brain, can't actually, I should say our conscious mind, can't take it all in. So we got to like sift through it. Right. And that's why when you know, I go to the park, I may see, I may notice all the trees and you go to the park and you notice the, the shiny slide. And, you know, I say, you know, it was the highlight of the park for you. And you're like the shiny slide.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:07:51 And for me, it was the trees. And that goes, that goes into our unconscious mind of what we value is what we filter through. Right. And so, you know, I, I value, like I may walk into a show home and be like, oh, I love how bright it is. And you may be like, oh, I don't like how cold it is. And so that's an internal representation right there of what you value, you know, because you're perceiving it as different. I don't even notice that it's cold in there. I noticed that the coloring that makes it cold or whatever that is, but you notice it because you value a different thing. And so it's really interesting how language can do that. And I think it's so important for people to take the time to break down what words mean to them, what symbols mean to them?
Sheryne Wilson: 00:08:37 I like the word happy. What does that mean to you versus what does it mean to me, connection? What does that mean to you? What does that mean to me? And when you start to understand that, then you have a bit of a better perspective of what's happening, right? If you can, he, who has the most knowledge or has the most terrain has the most power. Right. So if I can see more and understand more, I have more choice. I have more power versus if I'm, you know, only have one perspective and very narrow-minded, well, that could limit me in my power. So that's, that's what I mean by language is, is I like NLP because it breaks down barriers using language. And so often if I'm working with a client and you know, they're telling me something, I asked them what it means to them. What does that word actually mean to you? Does that word mean to you? Yeah. And it's, it's amazing what you will learn about somebody when they start to, um, describe what something means to them. You're like, oh, I see how that's valuable. Okay. See what I see. That's important to you. Oh, that's interesting. So that's cool. Sorry. I tangent. Did I lose you? Cause you glazed over.
Mischa Z: 00:09:55 No, no. I'm taking it in and I'm, I'm, I'm liking it. I'm I'm In a good way
Sheryne Wilson: 00:10:03 I'm a Hypnotherapist. I do put people in tance.
Mischa Z: 00:10:06 Um, so in her mind, performance, inner I N N E R mind performance.com. So anybody listening, those of you who are listening, um, go, while we're talking, you can go to www.innermindperformance.com and, and follow along there. Um, but, uh, Sheryne. So hypnotherapy, tell me about hypnotherapy as you described NLP. To me, describe hypnotherapy to me.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:10:40 I think NLP is a type of hypnotherapy. It is, um, I mean, we are in some kind of hypnosis 98%. I would say I've had even some colleagues say a hundred percent of the time we are in some form of hypnosis. And hypnosis is just, you know, a focus state of trance, um, it's a focus state when you're directed at something. So within three minutes, sorry, within three seconds of picking up your phone, you're in trance. You're, it's just, you're glued in you're there. When you, when within seven seconds of the television turning on, you're in a trance. Within five seconds, five to 10 seconds getting in your car and you're in a trance. It's automatic. It's, it's a very focused state. And a lot of the times, um, our unconscious mind, once you get to an auto, uh, an automatic response, our unconscious mind takes over how many times have you driven home? And you're like, I don't consciously remember going home. Like, did I turn, you know, did I turn past the store or not?
Mischa Z: 00:11:47 What was it? Was there? Yeah. What was the weather like?
Sheryne Wilson: 00:11:53 Your unconscious mind, like I've, and you've heard me say this before. It's like a GPS. And so you punch it in what you want to do and your unconscious mind directs your mind and your body and the rest of you to go do it. So hypnosis is really, um, we're dialing in on an, a, on a, on a very focused state for a purposeful reason. And so hypnotherapy is, you know, um, if we want to do a psychological change work, because you're stuck in an area in your life. Or you've experienced trauma, you can't let that go. And often, you know, we have open loops. So to say, just like you have open tabs on your computer, we have open loops. And if you know this, if you have a ton of tabs open on your computer, how well does it run?
Mischa Z: 00:12:36 It just gets bogged down. And yeah, it's just, a nightmare. Yeah.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:12:40 Hypnotherapy and hypnosis is a way to go in and to close, gently close. Some of those open loops of, you know, oh, "I was never good enough when I was a child." "I'm never good enough when I was child" and that plays over and over and over again. And oh, like, you know, "I wonder why my ex left me." "Why did my ex leave me?" "I don't know, was it because I'm not good enough?" And that's a lot of energy even to, um, you know, how many times have you laid in bed at night? "Ah, did I, did I pack my kid's lunch?" "Do I need to get up early and pack my kid's lunch?" "Did I pack it, did I put ahh, where did I put the?" "where did I put my keys?" "Where's my passport?" "Oh Shit where's this?" Like, and those are open loops.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:13:15 Right. And so hypnotherapy is a way to go in and close those loops. Okay. Um, yeah. And so it's, it's deep, psychological change work is what we call it. And often it has to do with regression in going back into the past and closing those loops because a lot of the instances that are open still happened between the ages of zero and 12. And so that is when we are most, um, what's the word, uh, malleable. Most, uh, susceptible to change. Where are the most susceptible to influence it's, it's the ages where, um, we're in theta states. So we're, we're a sponge. People say, kids are like sponges and they are, that is their unconscious mind is in a place of just download it, being downloaded information. And so sometimes that information is not very good. Right. And so we have to go back and reprogram the unconscious mind so that you can make a different behavior. So you can make think a different thought, choose a different behavior and get a different result.
Mischa Z: 00:14:16 That's a great way to say it there.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:14:18 I think I stole that from Vince, Like, honestly, like, I don't know how many times I've seen him write this on a whiteboard when he was, when he did some coaching for me. And I was like, yes, that's right, right. Vince is really good at listening. And we're just going to talk about Vince for a second listening and then like spitting out an answer, you know, like being like, oh, you mean like this? And I'm like, yes, like fill in gaps is great.
Mischa Z: 00:14:46 And his knowledge is so deep. It's unbelievable. The more I get to have interactions with him more I'm like, God dang. Like, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Um, so how did you stumble across, was it NLP first or hypnotherapy first or both at the same time?
Sheryne Wilson: 00:15:07 That's so interesting that you said that, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. Got your question. Okay. Yeah. Um, how did I stumble across? Well, like I'd mentioned before, so, um, my father, here's the long story. Cause we like deep don't we, we like to go a little spiritual and woo woo. The long story is, is that I actually wanted to be a doctor. And then my father ended up getting sick. Um, he had cancer and he passed away. And after that I realized I didn't want to be a doctor. And so after being in health and wellness for over 10 years, at that time, I decided to go in a completely different direction. I went into business and marketing and uh, got it.
Mischa Z: 00:15:50 I asked you a question. How deep are you into the doctor path? Are you like getting you're in university? You're getting your bachelor's you're getting
Sheryne Wilson: 00:15:59 Yeah. Yeah. I was on the dot, like I was in, on advanced, um, uh, like nursing program so that I could go into like, so it basically pre-med, it's going to medicine and I was applying for the faculty of medicine, which is like a preliminary program for medicine. So I had a long ways to go don't get me wrong. But yeah, it was, I was
Mischa Z: 00:16:21 On the path. Yeah. I was on the path.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:16:25 I was like, I'm going to do it. Yeah.
Mischa Z: 00:16:28 And so dad gets they'll go ahead. I didn't. So dad, are you and dad? A
Sheryne Wilson: 00:16:35 Yeah, my dad was my best friend. Yeah. Okay.
Mischa Z: 00:16:38 So this is a heavy yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bitch Slap moment kind of obviously.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:16:43 Okay. Yeah. If we want to get real, for sure. My dad had health issues and his entirely, he was a type one diabetic. And so I learned at a very young age, like by the age of, I think, five I've learned, I learned when my dad was in, had low blood sugar and I learned how to give him an injection. I learned like my mom was really good at teaching me and my brother when something was wrong with dad, because I mean, and this is like 20 years ago, 20 plus years ago when they didn't have, um, the insulin packs that they have now. Right? Like they didn't have monitoring on your body where your little thing would be if you went low or whatever. Yeah. The technology, right. It was like, we had to smell his breath. We had to watch his behavior. We had to see, you know, if he is broached, blood, sugar was dropping.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:17:29 And, and so anyway, he needs to say he had a lot of health issues. So I always knew in the back of my mind, my mom always prepared this at like dad isn't the strongest physically. And so we need to be appreciative of that. And so I knew, and you know, as an adult, you know, your parents aren't gonna live forever. Um, but I had no idea it would happen that soon. And I didn't think it'd be cancer that blindsided me. I thought it would be like, you know, I had done so much research in pre-med, uh, around diabetes and type one diabetes. And I thought it would be organ failure. I thought it would be, you know, kidney failure, heart disease. That's kind of the things that follow with diabetes. And then it was like, he got this rare cancer, like only seen in 17% of the population, blonde hair, blue eyed, Scandinavians, like in his eye, he got cancer in his eye.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:18:20 And it's like, what? Like a rare melanoma in his eye. And it's like, that kinda like shocked all of us. And the doctors didn't really know much about it. And they kind of were like, well, we're just gonna treat it normally. And it's not a big deal. And then later we found out this is a very aggressive cancer and that it can spread almost instantly. And melanoma spreads very fast. Um, and it did it spread to his liver and his lungs and his spine right away. And so within a very short amount of time, he got very sick and um, I put everything on hold and I took care of him and he was my best friend. And it was a no brainer for me. It was like, like I remember my brother would be like, what are you going to do? And I'm like, give me more.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:19:09 Am I going to do, I'm dropping out, like, I'm stopping everything. I'm taking that. And he's like, oh, okay. Like, I just was like, this is my best friend. What, what, you know? And, um, I had no idea what it would look like. And that is the scariest thing for anyone who's lost a parent or loved one with cancer. You don't know what it looks like. You don't know how long you have. You don't know how fast it goes. You don't know what it looks like. Some people rarely do they die peacefully in your sleep. That's what I've learned. Yeah. It can be quite ugly. Yeah. It's really gross. Um, so yeah, and I took care of him and it was such a beautiful experience because I learned the value of life and, and I've done a lot of grief talks. If anybody wants, I have spoken for a number of, uh, workshops and, uh, things around grief because it was such a beautiful experience for me. And I've been in contact there's death, doulas. Now death doulas is a thing I would have paid money back then to have a death doula. Like, cause you just don't know to have someone come in and be like, Hey, this is what you need to expect. This is the process. Like, it's like, it's just like having a baby. Right. You have no
Mischa Z: 00:20:21 End of life doula. Yeah. I interviewed, you can go back to the interviews. It's like interview 17 or something. Mel, Cavindish (Actually Mel McClave interview #12 https://bitch-slap-the-accelerated-path-to-peace.simplecast.com/episodes/interview-12-mel-mcclave-wants-to-talk-death. ) or name a great interview. She's a death doula, but it was awesome. I mean, it was so good. Yeah. So
Sheryne Wilson: 00:20:37 Thankfully there was a grief counselor that was really involved and kind of, kind of knew like the death stuff. And, and so it was great, beautiful because it taught me the value of life. Like you don't really understand life until you've just experienced death. And he died in my dad. My dad died in my arms and it was so beautiful and horrible at the same time because this, this is like, he was my best friend. I'm the only man I think I ever truly trusted in life. And he, he was just such a beautiful soul. And um, thankfully I have a lot of his, his legacy and characteristics in me, but it, it, it taught me so much in that moment. Like you really only have one life. Like, and my dad said to me, cause I'm like, dad, do I like who I marry?
Sheryne Wilson: 00:21:26 And you know, I'm having this. And we, he, we talked everyday about it. My dad was very open about the dying and we talked about everything and, and you name it, everything we talked about. And I just remember, sorry, I'm kind of rambling. But I remember him saying like sharing. It doesn't matter if you want to be a truck driver, be a truck driver or you want to be a garbage truck driver. Be it be the best garbage truck driver ever. Like nobody cares. Just own it. And just like, if that's your purpose and passion, then do that. Because I was like, dad, I don't know. Do I keep being a doctor? And he was like, I don't care. And as long as you are fulfilling your purpose, he didn't say it like happy. My dad was never like happy. Like my dad was never one of those people's like, do what makes you happy?
Sheryne Wilson: 00:22:12 My dad was very like, he was an accountant. So it was very logical. You what's purposeful. Right. And he's going to balance the books. God it. Right. Very much. And so he was, had a practical side of him, but he's like, yeah, like live out your purpose and be, be passionate. And I'm like, okay, because he didn't have regrets, but he had a list of things he hadn't accomplished yet. And that was like a big moment. And he said to me on his death bed, he said to me, I don't have regrets, but I do wish I had gone to more of your games. I do wish we had taken more vacations. I wish I'd taken the darn sick days. You know, I, at the end of the day, cause guess what? His boss, uh, 40 years, wasn't there. The day that the day my dad died.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:22:58 I mean, yeah, they sent him a card, but like, you know, all the things he had given himself to in the end, it was really only 20 family members around them. You know, my dad was in charge of many organizations. He was, did non-profit. He did all these things. He'd given 40 years to a company. And yet there's only 20 people around him at the, at the end. And that, that was a wake up call to me. And that's when it was like the slap, it started began. I began, the grief didn't happen that when he died, it was moving on with life afterwards and going, oh my God, like the person that was my best friend is no longer here. Let alone my father. And so I, I did have PTSD. I did have depression. I had horrible anxiety, all my abandonment issues. Every, every emotion I'd ever felt in my life came flooding in. I learned to mop my floors a lot. Um, like it was very like,
Mischa Z: 00:23:59 What else am I going to do? Is that what you mean? When you say mop the floors? It's like, this is what I know to do. That's what I can do. Yeah. I'd love that. Yeah.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:24:09 And I went back to landscaping. I had to get back to some roots. And so like in my younger years I had landscaped and I called up this guy that I used to landscape and I'm like, I just, I just need to plant some flowers every day for the next few months. And I did until I figured out what I wanted to do and super powerful. Anyways, long story short, this is a long story long.
Mischa Z: 00:24:32 Good.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:24:33 I ended up, you know, because I, all those emotions, I ended up getting sick myself because I still hadn't let go. I blamed myself on some level. I blamed myself that I didn't save him. That if only I had known more, if only I had been a doctor, if only all these things. And so I had to really let go and all that emotional turmoil plus the stress. Um, I had moved many times, like I put my body through hell and within the first three to five years of my dad passing. And if you do the research, a lot of auto-immune diseases come within the first three to five years of trauma. Yeah. Specifically the death of a loved one. Wow. Yeah. They say within two years of losing a loved one, you are so susceptible to cancer and auto-immune your chances are like crazy.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:25:29 Wow. Because it's, your body is in such a state of stress. Yeah. And emotional and physical. So lo and behold, all these autoimmunes came up. And uh, yeah. I started to heal myself naturally. Uh, you know, I did juicing, I did Ravi and I mean, you can go to my website. I list all the things that I did. I did over 30 different modalities. And in the process, in the journey, I did something called bioenergetics, natural bioenergetics, which is dealing with the emotional side and the psychology of emotions as well as the physical side in traditional Chinese medicine. Okay. There's NLP in wa woven into it. And so I noticed incredible change when I started seeing this practitioner who became my mentor and I was like, whatever, this is, I'm going to do it. Who
Mischa Z: 00:26:19 Was the, who's your, who was it? Who was your mentor? Who is your mentor?
Sheryne Wilson: 00:26:22 Um, she was Linda Easthouse and she, um, she has her own practice out of, uh, Mexico now. Okay, cool. And, uh, so she's semi retired but not retired. She's one of those people I think will never retire. Yes, yes. Uh, so she, she was my teacher and my mentor and taught me some incredible things and work with me every week for probably I think about a year. Okay. I read and saw her every week to deal with the physical, emotional trauma while doing all the physical modalities that I listed on my website. And that's how I was able to heal myself. But in that process, I came across an LP and, and, you know, I, the funny thing is if you know anything about marketing and business, NLP is very heavily woven into marketing and, and business. Yes.
Mischa Z: 00:27:08 Like the ad people are like opening loops on us. Right. They're like,
Sheryne Wilson: 00:27:13 Yes, absolutely. Right. The, just the way they were things from come by us, us too, wouldn't your life be so much better if you bought this, you know? And it's like, I don't know what it is. Let me show you how, like, there's just, so NLP is just so it's like sleight of mouth, which is what Tony Robbins actually does is he uses a technique called sleight of mouth, which is just very much, um, yeah. Getting people to think and draw them in. And then you make that quick change. Um, can you raise a very powerful technique? And so I actually became certified in bioenergetics first and did that for two years, health coaching, and then really wanted to go deeper. I wanted to get more into trauma counseling and trauma coaching, and I really wanted to blow people's minds. So I got into NLP hypnotherapy, timeline therapy, also incorporated matrix energetics, um, theta healing, EFT. And you just go to like, once you're hooked, you're you just spiral down into all the modalities. And originally I said, I wanna, I want to pick the top 10 modalities that changed my life and I want to learn them, master them. And then I want to help other people change their life with them. So that's what I did. So, um, yeah, it's been fun.
Mischa Z: 00:28:33 That is beautiful. Thank you for that. Um, so... Tell me if this is a naive or I don't know if nieve way to say it, but if I hear, I think all of the stuff you just said, it's like, it's all to change the pattern is that kind of change that Mo that, that pattern, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, like as far as the NLP is concerned, what are the, like the three someone listening's like, well, NLP sounds cool or low, but actually before we go there, Tony Robbins, the slight of mouth technique is he he's using that technique. You don't need to tell me what it is necessarily yet, but he uses that technique. So that draws the person in and opens them up. And so then he can, he can affect change or,
Sheryne Wilson: 00:29:28 And then he's quantum linguistics. So it's very, like, he's uses a lot of commands. Right. And so once you draw somebody in and you have influence, then you can command. And so that is like Tony Robbins is not the master of NLP, just so everybody knows, like you didn't even finish his NLP courses. Right. You just took two, two techniques out of NLP and just nice them down and mastered them. And he just uses them and it works on people. That's cool.
Mischa Z: 00:29:59 Yeah.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:30:00 And then quantum linguistics is it's very much once you have drawn them in, you know, and it's slight of mouth very much, like can be very sarcastic too. Um, well, "wouldn't you like to know?", You know, um, yeah, well that's because like, it's very sarcastic, it's very jokey and it's like, well, "if you wanted that you would go get it." And it's like, yeah, "I guess I would". And then he, he takes it a step further and he uses some, the linguistic, uh, quantum linguistics to kind of add in some embedded commands. Um, which is another technique that is really powerful. And then like, "so go do that". Right. You know, that's kind of, that's kind of what NLP and people don't even realize that it's happening unless you were just sit down and unless someone like myself, um, can pull it out and I'm like, oh, okay. I see what you're doing there.
Mischa Z: 00:30:59 So who did he learn from, or who was his teacher? Who would, as far as you're aware? Huh?
Sheryne Wilson: 00:31:05 I think learn from Tad James. Okay. Or could have been Richard Bandler. Those are kind of the top two, um, gurus out there. I'm sure there's more, please. Don't be offended if you're listening to this. And you're like, I know they're like, no, you got it wrong. Yeah. I may have.
Mischa Z: 00:31:23 Yeah. Right. Yeah. No, we're just having fun. We're just bantering. We're just talking about
Sheryne Wilson: 00:31:29 Tad James.
Mischa Z: 00:31:30 Well, I'll tell you what I think is so interesting about, and this is not no reflection of Tony Robbins. I think of the, but when I hear sleight of mouth, right. Um, unlike that almost bring, makes me as a slight negative connotation to me and not, not Tony, but that like the technique I'm like, oh, why does that, why does that, it's an interesting question. Why does that chat me just a little bit? Like using slight of mouth on me? You know what I mean? Like, you know what I'm saying? Does that make sense or not like, it's an interesting, go ahead.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:32:08 NLP can have a bad rap because it can be very manipulative in marketing. There's a fine line. And I think it's important that you have ethics and morals around it. And when I did my NLP, we went over ethics and morals, um, and how to use it. And when you use it, because it is, it does put people in a trance, it is formulated, there is so much, it's intertwined with hypnotherapy and hypnosis and it does put people in a trance and you need to be careful how you, how you do things because you can manipulate people. Um, anybody you can use language to manipulate anyone. Yeah.
Mischa Z: 00:32:41 Yeah. If people are trying to do it all the time, marketers, right. They're trying to influence our actions or get us to buy products or switch companies or go to Verizon versus AT&T, right. Like,
Sheryne Wilson: 00:32:55 Yeah. Like "wouldn't you want to protect your family?" W w like, "don't, you want to protect your family,?" "Come to AT&T" we'll put like what, oh, okay. It can be very, you know, um, accusing accusatory. It can be very, uh, manipulating. Um, yeah. But, but it works too. So there's, there's a right way and a wrong way, I would say of using it. Um, but it's out there. If you actually study the news, it's, it's, it's interwoven in everything. Every president has their own neuro-linguistic program or trainer to teach them how to talk. That's amazing.
Mischa Z: 00:33:34 Yeah.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:33:34 Yeah. That's how powerful. This is the top CEOs in the world, all know NLP. Um, most companies have their own NLP trainers, Vince, new NLP, like, yeah. All of my guys have like studied NLP, like, because it's such a powerful use of language. You can manipulate people to get, do what you want them to do.
Mischa Z: 00:33:56 Wow. Um,
Sheryne Wilson: 00:33:58 So I just use it to get people to do what they want to do on themselves. Right. Right.
Mischa Z: 00:34:02 Use it as a tool out of the yeah.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:34:04 To get them out of your head.
Mischa Z: 00:34:06 Yeah. So cool. So, and then if we were to just generalize, we'd say like the S the strategy of NLP is to help you used for good using the force for good is to help you or somebody, uh, change their thought pattern to a more productive or less negative, or however you want to say that. Right. So, yeah. Is that, yeah.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:34:30 I would say it's tricking your mind into doing what you wanted to do. Oh, I love that.
Mischa Z: 00:34:34 Um, so cool. So what are, like, tell me some, tell me some, uh, some tactics within that, like, cool. We've got this cool strategy. We're going to, we're going to trick our mind and to doing what we wanted to do. So like, gimme some, uh, anyone listening, like give him, throw, throw them a bone. Let's, let's get let's when we got,
Sheryne Wilson: 00:34:55 Um, yeah. So there's some words that are really powerful that automatically trigger people to take action, and those words are, NEED, WANT, HAVE, MUST, AND WILL, is also in there. And so, um, if I was talking to you and it's like, um, or if I need to do something, I will be like, I need to go do this. And that can trigger something in your unconscious mind to take action. Um, and everybody's different, but those are kind of the top five, the NEED, WANT, HAVE, MUST, and WILL. And so if you, if you're like, I will go do this, I must go do this. I'm going to go do this. Like a lot of things, people think I am is really powerful. It's not as powerful as I must. And, uh, uh, I will, and I have to, and I want to, and I need to. And so that's a trick that you can do, um, is you can literally say that, like, I must go do the dishes. I need to go do the dishes. I want to go do the dishes. I will go do the dishes. Um, and you can say that, and that will supercharge your unconscious mind because it's an embedded command that we've learned from such a young age to go do something. Right.
Mischa Z: 00:36:06 I love that. That's a good one. Yeah. Thank you for that. So that's a great tip. So again, people can follow along at www.innermindperformance.com or www.toolsforagoodlifesummit.com is where they can listen to you. I interview you. I do two interviews. We do the general session, and then we do the VIP session. I can't remember which one it was in, but you were like, and use the, what was that example you gave? It was so great. I hope, I hope it comes to me quick. I was like, um,
Sheryne Wilson: 00:36:38 I hope it comes through, cause I can't remember
Mischa Z: 00:36:40 It. Well, you were like, you were like, you were like, put the question on your, your, your like, form the question. You're like form the question, put it on your, on a note or a sticky on your mirror or something. And then the subconscious mind will work to answer the question. Right. And so you're like somebody hates doing this dishes and you're like, I it's something about all of a sudden now they're doing the dishes. Sorry audience.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:37:12 No, it's very much like, um, you know, uh, "what would my life look like if I enjoy doing the dishes" or, um, "how easy would it be for me to do the dishes every day?" Um, and, and not answering that question, just leaving it up there and watching your unconscious mind figure out the answer. Um, cause a lot of people think that it's a lot of work. The unconscious mind is so much, it's 30,000 times more powerful than the conscious mind. And so if you can get it embedded in your unconscious mind, it will take over and you'll take action. And so the whole, like I love, I get a lot of my clients to get this. "If, if this was no longer a problem in my life, how much time and energy would I have". And then the unconscious mind goes, "well, we want time and energy, why don't we solve this problem?" Like, you know, and it starts to look for an answer. "What would my life look like if this was no longer a problem in my life?" You know, "if this was no longer a problem in my life, how much time and energy would I have?" "What will I do with all the time and energy that I have that now that this is no longer a problem in my life?"
Mischa Z: 00:38:14 And so I love that. And I love that thought. And the subconscious mind starts working to answer that question.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:38:21 I walk away and you go, you know, eat a piece of chocolate, go for a walk. And the next thing, you know, as you're figuring out your life's problems and you're like, oh, how did that,
Mischa Z: 00:38:31 So would you have somebody write that down? Or like walk me through. So it's like, okay, go ahead.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:38:37 Yeah. Yeah. So a lot of my clients, I get them to write it on a sticky and put it on their mirror in the morning. Um, I would say first thing in the morning, especially when you get out of the shower, um, because your neural networks are most, are really lit at that time. So to say, and so yeah, the shower look in the mirror and be like, just say it out loud, three times, you don't need to answer it. Like this is, this is not a cognitive thinking thing. This is just, okay, what would my life look, feel? And sound like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, or whatever the question is that they need to ask. And they just say it out loud three times, and then they go away and then they say it again before bed. Um, and so that is a technique that you can use and I get them to do it for as long as it takes until I would say anywhere from two weeks to three weeks, seems to be about the time. And then by the end of 30 plus days, it's no longer a problem. It's not even, they're like, yeah, I have so much time energy to figure everything out. Like I got this
Mischa Z: 00:39:36 Any, you don't need to say any names, but any real word. What's the top real world example of that, where you've helped one of your clients do that. Can you give like a real life? If
Sheryne Wilson: 00:39:49 I would say every single one of my clients? Um, because once I think a lot of, I think as humans and, and the time and energy one is big because we've been taught that everything takes time and energy, right? And time and energy is important. It's a valuable thing. You're very valuable. And so I would say every single one of my clients, no matter what it is, if it's, you know, I want to lose weight. If I changed jobs, make more money, no longer be sick, whatever it is. I put the time in and how much time and energy will I have when I work out every day, how much time and energy will I have when I lose 10 pounds, you know, what will my life look out? Look like, you know, how much time and energy we'll have when this is no longer a problem, my life insert the problem.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:40:36 Um, and I would see every single one of my clients after the three weeks are like, oh my gosh, I have so much time and energy because it also changes their focus of where it's going. Because focusing on the problem as part of the problem, focusing on the problems, part of the problem, right? And so they're now thinking about how can I create more time and energy, because this is no longer a problem in my life because my unconscious mind is taking care of it. I'm taking care of it. And so what else can I do? Because the unconscious mind likes direction. It likes to do shit. And so many times once I sit, I sit down with a client, they got chaos, chaos in their life. They got destruction. The world's burning down because they're bored. What happens to a toddler when you leave them alone for too long
Mischa Z: 00:41:24 By God,
Sheryne Wilson: 00:41:26 What happens to toddler? When you leave him
Mischa Z: 00:41:28 Alone for too long, they're going to wreak havoc
Sheryne Wilson: 00:41:31 Markers on the wall. Legos kicked over, brothers, sisters locked in the cupboard. Like we are wired when we're bored, we will create anything, including Cray chaos. So give yourself something to do, stop, stop creating the problem.
Mischa Z: 00:41:53 Oh my God.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:41:55 You know, it's so funny when people come to me and they're like, I'm not good at manifesting. You know, I've been divorced three times and you know, I've lost my job. And like, I have health issues. I'm like, you are very good at manifesting. You are very good at manifesting. Your bored and your bored. We need to get that energy because it's the same thing. That's like, you know, they're very good at creating destruction,
Mischa Z: 00:42:22 Dig a ditch. Right.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:42:26 You, and so it's like, give your unconscious mind something to do. Stop destroying relationships, stop with the destroying habits in your life. Stop eating at night. Like people that people know what we eat because we're bored. We'll do something. Right. It's a default mechanism when we're bored, we will resort to creating anything, including destruction. So true. Right.
Mischa Z: 00:42:51 So true. Just like throwing little, little toddlers throwing temper tantrums. Oh my God.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:43:03 Unconscious minds board. So it's like post up today. Like
Mischa Z: 00:43:08 You had to manifest something. How about another destroyed relation, destroyed relationship.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:43:16 That much dysfunction. I'm scared. I'm like, wow. You are powerful.
Mischa Z: 00:43:20 I love that idea though. Wow. If you could just shift the, uh, you know, the, I didn't know, shift the intention or I dunno what the right word is there. The focus, the focus. Thank you. The focus. Oh my gosh. That's so, so good. Um, that's a new way to look at the destructive patterns in my life. Oh my God. I am so powerful. Manifesting. I just need a new focus. I love it. Um, I'm going to press, you know
Sheryne Wilson: 00:43:52 This because I've done it myself,
Mischa Z: 00:43:54 Right?
Sheryne Wilson: 00:43:56 Wow. I'm really good at manifesting chaos like crazy. What if I write my best friend? He says to me, he, whenever I I'm like trying to enter mine, he goes, you know, it takes one to know one,
Mischa Z: 00:44:17 So true. Um, all right. I'm going to press you a little bit on, I want to, I want a specific example of where you Jedi tricked the person with your little thing there with, with that tool of, um, sorry to do that too. I should've let you know beforehand. It had been a lot easier.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:44:39 Go on a specific example of what,
Mischa Z: 00:44:42 Of, where you your were doing, where you're like, Hey, ask this question and when you're out of the shower and when you go to bed, like, what is, uh, what is one of your clients? We don't need the name, but like, this was there. This was the real world problem. And we got the real word solution utilizing this technique, perhaps some others as well. But do you understand what I'm saying?
Sheryne Wilson: 00:45:04 Okay. Two clients are coming to mind. One. She had been, um, I would say she was in a, in a very tumultuous relationship for many years and then ended it, but never got over it. Like your heart was broken. And she was, I would say chronically depressed. Um, for four years, been in counseling for four years, just like living lifeless for four years. Um, you know, the nine to five or whatever, and she couldn't get over. And I remember I got her to do this specifically. I mean, I had worked with her too, but I think it was, you know, something around. I can't remember what it was. This is a while ago. Um, like a few years ago. I think I got her to ask the question. Um, what would I do? Yeah. How happy that's, what was, "how happy would I be knowing that I've let go of insert person's name?"
Sheryne Wilson: 00:46:04 Um, "How happy would I be knowing that I let go of this person and that I now have the power to choose what I get to do with my life." Something along those lines, a very empowered I remember had to do with how happy would I be? And within two weeks she, um, she comes through one of her appointments and she goes, we have a problem. And I said, what? She goes well for the first time in four years, I don't think I've ever been so productive. And I said, what do you mean? She's like, I planted my garden. Hadn't touched my garden for years, planted my garden. She said, I've changed jobs. Um, and she didn't like her job and she's like, I'm back. I got on a dating website and she's like, I actually think I'm happy. Like, I actually think I'm experiencing joy again.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:46:52 She actually didn't know we had to go through a whole process. Feels like, cause sometimes people legitimately forget. And so I was like, okay, let's start identifying that. There's happiness in your life. And, and uh, yeah, it was really cool. And uh, she went on and like, honestly after that, she just like, she didn't know what to, she didn't even know what to do with herself. I mean, she was like for four years, I feel like I've just wasted my life. And, and now I'm like planting a garden and, and moving on. And so that, and it literally, it was, I got her to do it. She was probably doing it. I think I had her do it, put it on her steering wheel of her car. So every time she got in her car, she had to say it out loud. Um, she did a lot of driving, so she was, we had multiple times a day asking that question and yeah. Transformational. Yeah. Beautiful.
Mischa Z: 00:47:44 And what was the other one that came to mind?
Sheryne Wilson: 00:47:46 Um, again, it was around love again and I think it was like, what would I do? Um, I think it was how fulfilled. No, "if I knew how much I love myself, um, how much, how much could someone love me." "If I knew how much I love myself how much could someone love me?" And, uh, again, similar situation been through divorce. Hadn't dated in a year or years. Long time was looking to get back into that, but was struggling to feel worthy to date again and like, oh my God. But then a month she had men bowing to her and she's like going on. And like, she also started to really respect herself and she wasn't dating just these lack of a better term douche bags. She doesn't use bags anymore. And she started dating he's high standard, respectable men. And I was like, whoa, how this is powerful. And she's like, she still just says the man the mantra today. Um, and yeah, this is, she started saying a couple of years ago, but very powerful, very powerful technique.
Mischa Z: 00:48:56 So good. Um, and again, everybody listening go to toolsforagoodlifesummit.com and you spoke on, I believe it was day one, mind day. And then there's also the VIP bonus interview where you drop, not only that Bob, but like, you're just, I mean, it was so powerful that the tools and the insights and, uh, um, like actionable content. Right. That's what I love is you were just like, here's a platter of actionable content to,
Sheryne Wilson: 00:49:29 Because I don't usually do actionable content.
Mischa Z: 00:49:32 Yeah. We, we sussed it out of you.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:49:36 Right? You did. I'm so I'm so impressed. Usually I'm just like, I dunno, you just do it. You just do it on my table. It come, you know, book an appointment with me. We'll fix it. Yeah.
Mischa Z: 00:49:46 Well you'll, you'll help if someone where someone goes, oh my gosh, urine's amazing. They call you up. You're going to obviously got to dig a little bit. Like, what's the issue? What are we going to work on? What technique do I want to apply? Where right. Like what what's best fit given, uh, given the, uh, the progress they want to make, I guess, but, and of course, innermindperformance.com. They can go there too. So I wrote down a few questions. I always like to, to take a moment and thank you for indulging me with all that. And, um, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try to think of something to put within framework, hold on, put within your framework. So the next time we talk, I can be like, Hey, I used that little trick and here's what it was. Right. So I'm going to, I'm going to think about that offline. I'll I'll come up with something and try it for the next time we talk. But I like to take like, Hey, source universe, infinite intelligence, God, call it whatever the heck you want. Like, you know, w w like, what are some questions? So here, are you ready?
Sheryne Wilson: 00:50:56 I'm ready. Are you channeling? Is that
Mischa Z: 00:50:58 What you're saying? I'm set. I did earlier, before I got on the call, I wrote down a few things. And so one of them was, I thought, what an opportunity to, cause I'm a guy or a girl or a man woman, however you want to say it. I was like, I wrote down, what's the biggest difference between men and women and how they deal, how they deal, or we could say how they deal with blank. That's what I got to. What's the, my question to you. What's the biggest difference between men and women and how we deal you fill in the blank.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:51:34 Oh, wow. I think in how they deal with life and perception. Okay.
Mischa Z: 00:51:43 Tell me then
Sheryne Wilson: 00:51:47 This would require a full nother podcast. As I love talking about gender roles, and I love talking about programming and the pro or the programming that's come with gender, um, and gender roles. And, and I hope that doesn't offend anybody when I say gender, but I mean like the masculine and the feminine, um, yeah, I think, you know, the earliest programming is women are taught and, and I think that's changing. Um, but for definitely like our generation and up, I would say it's very much been, uh, women are less than and weaker. And, um, that's been a negative thing and, uh, men are, you know, stronger and women are sensitive, right? Women are sensitive and men are, you know, emotionally unavailable. Right. And, and men, I think like I literally have the picture of like a man in a suit with a briefcase walking down the street, logically, going to work and motionless, right.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:53:01 Like emotionless, I should say. And a woman at home in the kitchen, um, you know, crying over a sad movie. And, and like, that is what I picture when you were talking that, because that is the program that I received at a young age. And what I have learned is that makes it difficult for men and women to relate because now we've created a barrier and we've created labels. And if you've ever heard me speak on clubhouse or anywhere, I hate labels, hate labels. I hate labels. I hate titles. I hate, I hate it when we do that. And I get why we do it so that we can compartmentalize and relate to what's going on. Cause we need to remember, I talked about distort, delete and filter what's happening. So it's a way that we filter things, but it does put things in a box. And what it, what it does is it says that women are overly sensitive and men are, you know, emotionally unavailable. Right. And I would say that makes it very difficult for men and women to be in connection and communication. If those are, if those are the, the labels and the programs that we've set before us,
Sheryne Wilson: 00:54:27 I could go so deep into this,
Mischa Z: 00:54:29 We have a few minutes. So don't, don't be scared if there's more you want to say, or you want me to ask a question if you're, if there's something on the tip of your tongue,
Sheryne Wilson: 00:54:37 I think I, we can go a little bit. Woo Woo. I think, you know, I think the feminine, here's my honest opinion. I think the feminine energy, whether you identify as a female or not, or you just identify with that type of energy, I think the feminine is more powerful than the masculine. I truly believe that I believe the feminine energy, we can birth a human being, which we create life and we can squat that you ever seen Eliza Schlesinger. Yes. Right. And she's like, you know, and she's like, you know, we just wiggle out this human being and we're like, you know, and then we're like, oh, can you open this can for me? And it's like, she's like really like,
Mischa Z: 00:55:20 Oh my God, that's amazing. Right.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:55:22 It's just like what, um, I think the feminine energy that we possess, whether you're female or identify as female, whatever doesn't matter, um, is stronger and more powerful than any masculine energy out there. I also think that feminine energy will heal the masculine. I feel that women have, um, inverted and destroyed a lot of the sanctity of feminine energy and that it is actually quite sovereign and strong and powerful. It's not weak. It's not necessarily nurturing, nurturing as it is more sovereign. And I think that if women can tap into that, they would be able to heal men. Not that that's our responsibility, but I think it would heal the masculine. And I think that would allow the masculine to step into more of a feminine role or a feminine energy, which would soften men, which would allow more creativity, which again, I think it's about equality for me.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:56:21 It's like the ying, the yang. It's like, we need the masculine, we need the feminine. And every human being needs to have a balance of the both. That is my perspective. And I have seen relationships in my personal life change when I step into more masculine energy. And when I step into feminine energy and when I learned to balance the time, the tact tone and timing of that, I can heal every man in my life. I have witnessed that before my eyes. And it is such a powerful role because I used to be one of those women that emasculated men, I chopped your balls off and I chewed them up and spit it out. And I thought I was being a bad-ass bitch. And then I realized that you crying in the corner did note like does nothing, that these men, men just want to be loved as much as women.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:57:11 They want to be heard as much as women, it's just not acceptable. And that's part of the program. It's not socially acceptable for a man to come to work and be like, I'm having an off day I'm sad, you know, whereas women, it's totally acceptable to be like, I'm PMS'ing. I can be a because in PMS'ing scene, you know, like, all right, like a girlfriend messaged me and she's like, ah, I think I'm getting my period. I'm going to take today off. And I'm like, oh yeah. Okay, cool. But like, if a minute, you know, if one of my men, male friends messaged and he was like, my blood ball hurts, I think I'm going to skip work. Right. We'd be like, what? Like pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Like why you being a pussy? You know, like, you know, I'm just like, I used to be that girl that was like, why?
Sheryne Wilson: 00:57:54 Like, if I saw a man cry, be like, why are you crying? Like why? And now when I'm in the presence of a man that cries, I'm like, I will hold space. Like I'm holding a child, excuse my language. But it's like, that is the most probably privileged state to, for a woman to ever be when a man shows real raw emotion. And I've learned to really appreciate, harness, captivate hold that, um, because it's just not allowed. And if men had more safe places to do that, the world would be a different place. And if women had more safe place to step into the masculine while being feminine, because we kind of went to the extreme, like w like before it was like women were like, you know, like these weak feeble, like stay at home, love me, you know, like just weak and feeble, whatever.
Sheryne Wilson: 00:58:50 And then we swung and we're like, I want to be a bad ass bitch. And like, we want to like step into this masculine role. And it's like, I want the career and I want to pop out babies. And I want to look good and wear skinny jeans while doing it. And then we realized that we all started getting sick and dying and burning out. And we started castrating men because it's just not like, not meant to be like, we went so far to the extreme. Right. And like how many women were breaking down, like we're on my table. And they're like, I just understand what's happening. My hair's falling out, running a corporate nine to five job. I'm, you know, managing millions of dollars. Like they've stepped in this giant corporate masculine role. And they're like the queen at home too. Like, you know, taking charge of their family. And they're like, I don't know why I'm burnt out. And I'm like, well, because you have a uterus and your purpose is to nurture. So like, if you abandoned that you're going to burn out in the other ways. So I think it's about kind of finding that balance of like, yeah, I can be a bad-ass pitch and still cry, you know, and take a break and men can be, you know, corporate gurus or, you know, Kings of their household and have a bad day.
Mischa Z: 01:00:05 Yeah. And not have it be a vicious bad day. Right. Like a lot of times that perhaps a bad day for man that justifies our, unloading our emotions in an unhealthy way. Right. Instead of crying or, or in a softer feminine sort of way where like agro or aggressive or vocal or intimidating, or, you know, um, maybe not encouraged how to like deal with that bad day. And, uh, in a, in a, in a, in a healthier manner, shall we say,
Sheryne Wilson: 01:00:45 Well, it's because we've been repressed too for so long, you know, so many women are like, men are like Jeckel and Hyde. It's like, CA can you blame them? Like they have to play this role of like macho man or, you know, hero all day. And then it's like, they are just shoving their emotions down. And then you're asking them why they bought the wrong kind of cottage cheese. Right. And they're just like, like, I can't handle that anymore. And they just snap. And you're like, oh my God, what's your problem. And it's like, really? You know,
Mischa Z: 01:01:21 Oh my god.
Sheryne Wilson: 01:01:21 So hard. You know, women, I'm not saying women have it any easier. This is not about who has it easier or harder. It's something needs to change, you know, like, yeah. And I think, I think honestly, the feminine is leading the change. And if, because we, we are the ones that birth the child and therefore we create the life. And so you create the standards you create, you can create a lot more than you think.
Mischa Z: 01:01:50 Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for that. When you say sovereign, what do you mean
Sheryne Wilson: 01:01:56 I'm addicted this word right now, sovereign sovereign is like, um, gracefully taking your authority is a, it's an, it's a deep knowing of, um, empowerment, um, sovereign, like, you know who you are, you know, where you're going. It's like, I picture this very like, um, noble queen, just taking her throne. The chaos is going on and she just leans forward and just says, you know, something really nurturing. And just knowing that you are handling the situation, you know who you are. You're not out of fear. And it's, there's a lot of grace and power that comes forth like sovereign.
Mischa Z: 01:02:35 Does that make sense? It does. Thank you. I love that. Um, that's good. You, when you talk about women can heal men. What pops to my mind is not literally like needing to take action to heal them. It's it's like allowing, allowing for, for healing. You hold space. I guess we could, because I wrote down hold space. I think, I think that as a guy, like to me, I, I, when I quit my job so I can hold space for my boys. And what does that mean? That means I can be there for them. And oftentimes I didn't even need to do anything, but just be in the living room so that when they opened the door and looked out, they're like, yeah, dad's there. This is a safe space, right. Hold space. Without, without having to do anything else other than listen, or be there or hug or right. Does that, yeah. So go ahead. Go, go.
Sheryne Wilson: 01:03:40 Yeah. No, I think like females are so used to them being in chaos and so used to them being rescued and being part of the, like being the problem, because we can, we just we're dramatic. We can be more dramatic, more emotional. And if women learn to rescue themselves and find that masculine energy that can rescue themselves and just chill the out, like that gives men the space to talk, because how many times has a man walked in the door or you've gone out to meet them. And you're like, oh my God, let me tell you about my day. And you just like, every woman does this. And it's just like "Blah", and they just vomit. And then they're like, what, why aren't you talking to me? Why aren't you sharing me? Why aren't you opening up? And the guy's like, because you're a disaster dude.
Sheryne Wilson: 01:04:29 Like, and, you know, they're taught to like rescue the woman. So they're sitting there in silence, you know, cause that's how they don't know what to do. And it's like, if women just were like, learn to take care of deal with their own, you know, like you can save yourself and then once you deal with your own, that allows space for a man to be like, Hey, you're okay, because you're okay. Can I come cry on your lap? And you're like, yeah, yeah, here, here. And I'm not going to castrate you for it. Like, I'm not going to emasculate you while you do it. I'm going to still look at you tomorrow. Like you're a king, like, and certainly I get super passionate about it. I still,
Sheryne Wilson: 01:05:12 And I I've had to learn this. I'm still learning this.
Mischa Z: 01:05:18 I love it. Great, great lessons. Great. Great. Yes. Um, um, just quick time check. Um, I think I'm going to say, I think that, uh, the universe just had a great question for me to ask you, so thank you so much for that. Um, thank you so much for that. Um, I, I, was there anything that, um, you were hoping to speak on when you jumped on the podcast here that you didn't get a chance to talk about that?
Sheryne Wilson: 01:05:53 No, I mean, I was, I'm such an open and easy going flow, whatever. Um, I didn't know what to expect and I was pleasantly surprised and I, as you know, there's multiple topics that I can and share about and, and I just kinda went with your leadings. So I think it's great.
Mischa Z: 01:06:13 Well, fantastic. Um, again, everybody for more www.innermindperformance.com, When I'm looking over here, I'm looking at your website, which is super cool and there's some great programs and offerings and things to help to help people. Um, yeah. So check that out. And then of course, why wouldn't I talk about the www.toolsforagoodlifesummit.com yet again, go there and you can check out, uh, your, uh, Sheryne's awesome, um, interviews. So I think that's it. Uh, thank you so much for jumping on. I'm going to hit stop and then we'll say goodbye offline.
Sheryne Wilson: 01:06:56 No, thank you so much. It's been awesome.