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Interview 13. Matthew Cox. Part 4 of 4: The Ex-Con’s guide to finding peace.

Episode Summary

One of my favorite sayings for a good life and to keep from reverting back to "old behaviors" is “Trust in god, clean house, and work with others.” Which translated is: put your faith in something greater than yourself, clean up your messes in life, and how can you pass it on and be of service to others. Matthew Cox does exactly that but in his own words and on his own terms. There is a lot to be learned from Matt Cox…

Episode Notes

One of my favorite sayings for a good life and to keep from reverting back to "old behaviors" is “Trust in god, clean house, and work with others.”  Which translated is: put your faith in something greater than yourself, clean up your messes in life, and how can you pass it on and be of service to others.  Matthew Cox does exactly that but in his own words and on his own terms.  There is a lot to be learned from Matt Cox…

Show notes:

For those of you who don’t know Matthew Cox; he was Number One on the Secret Services most wanted list for stealing $11,500,000 dollars and committing $55,000,000 in mortgage fraud all while on federal probation, all while he was on the run, all while he was committing more fraud.  Matthew Cox was profiled on American Greed, Dateline, etc.  Ultimately Matt was captured and sentenced to 26 years in prison.  In July 2019 he was released from prison after 12.5 years.  While in prison he began collecting and writing the true crime stories that he had the privilege of hearing…  So now Matt writes books, has rediscovered his passion for art, and… He’s smart, articulate, and may just have discovered the secrets to finding peace of mind…   

To get caught up read the awesome summary of his story here: https://insidetruecrime.com/true-crime-stories/

His autobiography - incredible adventure of fraud that I refer to “Shark in the Housing Pool: On the Run with the Secret Service’s Most Wanted” is here:  https://www.amazon.com/Shark-Housing-Pool-Matthew-Cox/dp/B0851KBYCF/ref=sr\_1\_2?keywords=shark+in+the+housing+pool&qid=1582751284&sr=8-2

Some of the highlights from my notes on part 4.

It’s cool to see a shift in perspective and awareness, and it’s a beautiful thing to see.  How do you support that continued shift?  Put everything out there, do the right thing, and work, and try and make an effort and don’t be a selfish greedy prick, try not to be too arrogant, be a decent person do the right thing, do the right thing and good things will happen, and the opportunities will present themselves…  

Struggling to stay humble - do this to say humble - (He reluctantly says this, knowing that asking for recognition is not the solution) I pick up trash at his apartment…  Saw the trash at apartments, and now he picks up trash on the way to coffee and on the way back…  How is he going to answer the question of what are you doing picking up trash…  It’s important to stay humble…  I am an arrogant prick with an addictive personality…  I am not above the guy holding the sign on the side of the road…  

Go volunteer at the cancer center.  In prison they schedule your cancer treatment for 6 months…  and then you die in 3 months…  

Are you aware of how you are inspirational to people.  I try to respond to the emails he gets, I talk to these kids, you know I’m 19 or 22, you can help me figure these things out…  Here’s what you do…  Patience, you work, don’t try to keep up with your buddies, and stop care about what kind of car you’re driving and save your money, and be patient cause you're young…  

Do you do any meditation or anything like that…  Absolutely he does in his own way…  

Him and the GF go to church…  He doesn’t disagree with anything the preacher says…  the messenger is irrelevant, everything you’re saying I agree with…  

He’s cries every other day…  How bad he screwed up with his son with the relationships he destroyed…  the good as well, the amazing opportunity he has in general, the luck, the generosity of people he met inside and out of prison.  I don’t even care.  

Let’s talk about the economy…  We can’t pump this much money into the system and not expect inflation.  6 to 18 months…  a hiccup is coming.  It’s nice to have low expectations…  

My experience of the corporate life and the acceptable level of fraud…  and they are not at peace…  Matt, would you trade it, you can go work in a corporate job…  would you take it.  I am going to to push these stories, I am going to do the things in life that makes me happy, and I am not going to do anything specifically as a result of money…  I’m just not going to do that.  I am going to make money doing what makes me happy.  I sleep good at night, and I enjoy what I’m doing and I have fun and I work all the time and it literally doesn’t feel like I work.  I paint, I write sometimes, I answer emails, I talk to people on the phone, I talk to producers, I do podcasts, I sell books…  

What happened to you was a gift, it was a gift in your life, do you see it as a gift?  I said exactly that while i was in prison.  I will never have this much time.  I have been given an opportunity to figure out what I should be doing and the time to cultivate it.  My biggest regret being free is that I don’t have enough time to write.  

See his other books and projects in the works (heck even submit him a story): https://insidetruecrime.com/true-crime-stories/

See him on Youtube - Inside True Crime: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3\_qYh4foNgVXI7NzcuxlCA

See his art here - Cox Pop Art: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCATY5XupLF28qcQ3mDN\_eGg

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