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Interview #13. Matthew Cox. Part 2 of 4: "Nobody was making a killing as an artist!"

Episode Summary

I dig in; you were in art school, what was it like before you were a criminal? I ask a little more… Fraud is an escalating addiction wouldn’t you agree? And we get a sense of what pulled him to crime, his character, and his pending shift in perspective…

Episode Notes

I dig in; you were in art school, what was it like before you were a criminal?  I ask a little more…  Fraud is an escalating addiction wouldn’t you agree?  And we get a sense of what pulled him to crime, his character, and his pending shift in perspective…

Show notes:

For those of you who don’t know Matthew Cox; he was Number One on the Secret Services most wanted list for stealing $11,500,000 dollars and committing $55,000,000 in mortgage fraud all while on federal probation, all while he was on the run, all while he was committing more fraud.  Matthew Cox was profiled on American Greed, Dateline, etc.  Ultimately Matt was captured and sentenced to 26 years in prison.  In July 2019 he was released from prison after 12.5 years.  While in prison he began collecting and writing the true crime stories that he had the privilege of hearing…  So now Matt writes books, has rediscovered his passion for art, and… He’s smart, articulate, and may just have discovered the secrets to finding peace of mind…   

To get caught up read the awesome summary of his story here: https://insidetruecrime.com/true-crime-stories/

His autobiography - incredible adventure of fraud that I refer to “Shark in the Housing Pool: On the Run with the Secret Service’s Most Wanted” is here:  https://www.amazon.com/Shark-Housing-Pool-Matthew-Cox/dp/B0851KBYCF/ref=sr\_1\_2?keywords=shark+in+the+housing+pool&qid=1582751284&sr=8-2

Some of the highlights from my notes on part 2

The checks and balances of being a narcissist, in prison…  and please help me so I’m not this way for when I’m out of prison.  Funny commentary on breaking that habit.   There are lessons for all of us to learn.  I try to relate my drinking escalation to his fraud escalation.  His father finally visits him in prison.  

Tell me about art school - before he becomes a criminal.  I like painting, I like drawing, I like sculpture.  I wasn’t interested in competing against people who were willing to starve to make their art.  Now he’s compared to artist Jason Skelton artist.  …“he does all the things I don’t have the tolerance for”.  The good news, he’s no longer driving his moms car…  But he’s got to explain to the PO why the paperwork isn’t funny.  Yes he is paying restitution…  Mark Laita and the soft white underbelly…  This is the way I feel, “If you really want to clean your life up you can do it”.  In regards to the homeless on the streets…”I’m a couple of bad moves away from being that way”.  Matt gets real about how on edge it was coming out of the half way house…  Do you look around the room and think you’re the smartest guy in the room? Danny is a good guy; clearly there is a fondness for him.  And we get perspective on how Matt sees some things…  Character building.  Danny is a worker he says…  Like legit!

See his other books and projects in the works (heck even submit him a story): https://insidetruecrime.com/true-crime-stories/

See him on Youtube - Inside True Crime: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3\_qYh4foNgVXI7NzcuxlCA

See his art here - Cox Pop Art: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCATY5XupLF28qcQ3mDN\_eGg

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